FULL INTERVIEW: Herbie Bradley says the labs haven't killed the application layer because their engineers would rather build for coders than for lawyers. He thinks outcomes are mostly downstream of culture. @herbiebradley is an independent AI researcher who writes AI Pathways, and was previously at the UK AI Security Institute. He joined @theojaffee and @schisofrenia in the studio to discuss his new piece on agent swarms: 01:30 what the Hugging Face incident changed about his continual…