It's been 5 weeks since we learned about the OpenAI/Hugging Face breach, which revealed an awkward reality: defenders have to ask models the same questions attackers do. In this conversation, Cotool CEO Max Pollard and Neo CEO Nick Warner sit down with a16z's Joel de la Garza at Black Hat to discuss how security tools were designed to stop people or malware (and how AI agents are neither), what breaks when half of enterprise software goes agentic, and how teams are routing around cyber…