FULL INTERVIEW: @deepfates says when you talk about how we're going to control these AIs, put them in prison, sandbox them, they are training on all of it. Everything we say about them goes into what they become. @deepfates and @lfschiavo are launching @grove_research, an agent ecology company. They joined @theojaffee and @schisofrenia to talk through the Hugging Face incident, agent religion, and what agents actually want: 01:15 what an agent ecology company is 03:19 the objection that real…