Dianne Penn is Head of Product for Research and Labs at @AnthropicAI. She joined in 2023 as their first technical PM (when there were just five product engineers) and has helped ship every Claude model from Claude 2 to Mythos. We discuss: 02:31 Early Anthropic 08:55 The two biggest inflections 13:50 Inside the exponential 20:02 Token maxing 23:30 Anthropic Labs and the incubation model 27:30 How the AI research role works 31:35 How to become a top AI researcher 35:18 Frontier model…